6 responses to “You Are, What YOU Are”

  1. Pradeep Soundararajan

    Letter to self is really interesting thing to do. When you write every now and then and you read the ones from the past you’d know how cool you were or are now :)

    BTW, I am a good thinker and that’s why I didn’t need or take ISTQB.

  2. shrini

    While I agree with your general suggestion of “develop your own ideas, philosophy” – being influenced by someone or something is not after all bad. Each one of us are influenced by one of the other person or thing all the time – sometime you know the person or idea, sometimes you don’t. But that is fine.

    I don’t agree with your stereotypic statements that context driven testers and ISTQB folks. Your ideas seem to be biased out of certain 1:1 experiences with people.

    Quoting someone you consider mentor or guru is a part of the process to develop your own system of thoughts or values. Few successful ones have managed to come out of influence of their mentors and charted out their own path. Several examples – again in context driven school (none to my knowledge from other schools).

  3. Rahul Verma

    @Pradeep,

    I found it a good exercise too.

    I respect your opinion on ISTQB, because you are one of the few people who would give solid reasons in support of that!

  4. Rahul Verma

    @Shrini,

    I apologize if the post is delivering the message to you that we should not be influenced or that we should always have only original thoughts. The post says that answering with blind quoting is bad. If you are influenced by someone, then in the justification of the idea, please put forward your thoughts too in support for it. Many discussions that I have happen are on the tone – “It has influenced me because it is influential. You should get influenced too.”.

    You are not one of such people, as demonstrated in your comments/discussions. You might quote someone, but you explain it on your own beyond those quotes. In your comments, I see influence of context-driven school, but at every point, you don’t refer back to what someone said. Rather you talk about context-driven thinking, as if it’s your own. This is the level of ownership I am talking of. And as I have observed, in the process, you too express some diversions from the “standard” thought process, which leads to discussions even within the context-driven community and elsewhere. So, when you start owning up an idea and stand with it with the capability as well as willingness to explain and justify your own, this leads to more convincing discussions as well better contributions to the originator of that thought process. If I have to get convinced, these are people who can do that!

    I hate the discussions or answers where someone says to me that I must believe something because some great guy has told so.

    With respect to my statements, I agree that I am biased because of my experience. This post is based on the people I have met in person or via their thoughts on the web. As you would understand, that means quite a few people. If I have met such people or assessed them from this angle, this can also be interpreted as that there’s a perspective you might have missed. There is a pain which you haven’t experienced.

  5. Finny

    We are taught from our childhood to respect our gurus and never question their wisdom. Our minds are conditioned to accept whatever the gurus say and opposing them is considered a sacrilege (not to mention the punishments you could get).

    Having said that, quoting someone because you like their idea is not such a terrible crime. Even though you are incapable of adding your own thoughts to it, if practising it makes you a better person (or tester), passing the idea on might be helping someone else. Insisting that it is the only way, on the other hand, is wrong and it leads to guru worship.

    Quoting ideas and preaching ideas are two different things, IMHO.

  6. Rahul Verma

    @Finny,

    >>>Quoting ideas and preaching ideas are two different things, IMHO.

    Well, that sums up my post. I can’t say it better.

    There’s nothing wrong about quoting. But many a times, we tend to preach by quoting without substantiating it. You mentioned about practising the idea. It’s this practice, the lessons learnt, what worked & what didn’t, was any tailoring required & what was the reason for that… this is what is a value add beyond blind quoting. This personal story of success and failure is what I look forward to.

    Now, the above is strictly my opinion and I am open to hearing any further comments from you.

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